[personal profile] ammo1
Я наткнулся на забавный баг в родном языке.



Возьмём фразу "Все двадцать участников соревнований дошли до финиша".


Числительное можно менять: "Все сто пятьдесят семь участников...", "все три миллиона участников".

А вот теперь попробуйте подставить в эту фразу любое числительное, заканчивающееся на единицу. :)


© 2014, Алексей Надёжин


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Date: 9 February 2014 15:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flat-hedgehog.livejournal.com
Ну так от одного до 4х на конце всегда так. Даже правило в каком-то классе учили.

Date: 9 February 2014 15:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abiboon.livejournal.com
Все сто двадцать три участника дошли до финиша" жеж)
Речь как я понял о другом.

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Date: 9 February 2014 15:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donthard.livejournal.com
Все одиннадцать участников соревнований дошли до финиша-)

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Date: 9 February 2014 15:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abiboon.livejournal.com
Можно (с оговорками) вывернуться с помощью "каждый из", но это читерство)
Да, баг.

Date: 9 February 2014 15:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leghe.livejournal.com
Все двадцать один участник дошел до финиша.
Может суть в том, что между двадцать и один надо ставить "И"? Но она не ставится, потому что и так ясно.

Date: 9 February 2014 15:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Вы прочитайте, что сами написали. Это точно не по-русски. :)

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Date: 9 February 2014 15:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nagturn.livejournal.com
Занятно. Это тебя так с теста батареек облучило? :D

Date: 9 February 2014 15:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Лампочек. Их было ровно 21.
Edited Date: 9 February 2014 15:21 (UTC)

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Date: 9 February 2014 15:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mironkin.livejournal.com
В русском языке помимо единственного и множественного есть еще следы двойственного и паукального чисел.
И объяснить почему 1 яйцо, 2-4 яйца, 5-20 яиц, а 21 снова яйцо и 22-24 яйца и т.д. иностранцу очень проблематично.

Date: 9 February 2014 15:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Как интересно. Я не знал.

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Для иностранцев

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Date: 9 February 2014 15:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] numach.livejournal.com
Все участники (21 шт) дошли до финиша...

Date: 10 February 2014 11:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ssept8.livejournal.com
О, супер! Вся пачка гонщиков... Далее по тексту. И я в их числе :-)

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Date: 9 February 2014 15:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zajushka.livejournal.com
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все сто сорок и одиннадцать участников дошли до ф.

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все девяносто и одиннадцать у. д. до ф.

Date: 10 February 2014 11:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ssept8.livejournal.com
Нет, нехорошо, нет интриги. Лучше - все сто тридцать девять и двенадцать участников... споткнулись на арифметике :-)

Date: 9 February 2014 15:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] galinapskov.livejournal.com
Интересно.
Дружим?

Date: 9 February 2014 17:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grag-hoppers.livejournal.com
Нет, ты не мой тип, но спасибо

Date: 9 February 2014 15:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shum-away.livejournal.com
Все участники соревнований (числом двадцать один) дошли до финиша.
Все участники соревнований (а было их двадцать один) дошли до финиша.

Знай и изучай родной язык, в общем )))

Date: 9 February 2014 15:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Я могу и лучше придумать. Например "сегодня на старт вышел 21 спортсмен. все участники соревнований дошли до финиша". Но пост совсем не об этом. :)

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Date: 9 February 2014 15:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bipedall.livejournal.com
Какой баг? Русский язык очень гибок, просто не надо тупо упираться в собственный ограниченный словарный запас.
Почему не сказать так: все из 121 участника дошли до финиша?

Date: 9 February 2014 15:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Конечно, русский язык богат и можно любую мысль выразить множеством фраз. Но у Вас тоже неудачно получилось. Звучит плохо.

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Date: 9 February 2014 15:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daneech.livejournal.com
я завис

Date: 9 February 2014 16:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Ага, попробуйте ещё придумать, как сказать "1.5 суток" словами. :)
Edited Date: 9 February 2014 16:16 (UTC)

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Date: 9 February 2014 16:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livejournal.livejournal.com
Здравствуйте!
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Date: 9 February 2014 16:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3000top.livejournal.com
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Date: 9 February 2014 16:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alltotal.livejournal.com
Одиннадцать

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Date: 9 February 2014 17:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Ага, всё, что заканчивается на одиннадцать - исключение.

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Date: 9 February 2014 16:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] probawxy.livejournal.com
Ужоснах! При Лужкове такого не было. Надо срочно пожаловаться в ООН в ЖЭК.

Date: 9 February 2014 17:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nonamexnoface.livejournal.com
Да, да! И при Сталине такого не позволяли!

Date: 9 February 2014 17:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nonamexnoface.livejournal.com
2 кочерги + 4 кочерги = 6 коче... ?

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Date: 9 February 2014 17:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Как это не удивительно, это не так. Почитайте все комментарии. :)

Про Пушкина и Ъ

Date: 9 February 2014 17:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexei sergeevich (from livejournal.com)
В режиссерской версии ролика про алфавит, фамилия Пушкина была написана с твердым знаком в конце - ПушкинЪ, в дореволюционном стиле так сказать :)

Re: Про Пушкина и Ъ

Date: 9 February 2014 17:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Я знаю. :)

Re: Про Пушкина и Ъ

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Date: 9 February 2014 17:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olgafireporno.livejournal.com
ты лучше скажи полтора рубля без мата...))

Date: 9 February 2014 17:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Я вообще мат не употребляю, так что всё что угодно могу без него сказать. :)

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Date: 9 February 2014 17:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ssept8.livejournal.com
Все 151 участник... - фраза абсолютно грамотная и полностью нормальная для русского языка.

Date: 9 February 2014 17:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Ужоскакой. :)

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Date: 9 February 2014 17:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyaif.livejournal.com
Всех пробило на русский язык похоже.
Захар Май в твиттере сегодня написал:
колос - колосья
волос - волосы
голос - голоса
русский язык за[**]ал

:)
Edited Date: 9 February 2014 17:16 (UTC)

Date: 9 February 2014 17:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiopental.livejournal.com
То ли дело:
клас-класы,
влас-власы,
глас-гласы.
Да здравствует славянский языкъ.

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Date: 9 February 2014 17:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zorins.livejournal.com
Все 21 участник дошли, но лучше таких фраз избегать. Это не си, тут алгоритмический подход не канает.

Date: 9 February 2014 17:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Не, не звучит. Нельзя.
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Date: 9 February 2014 17:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Все двадцать дошли, а потом приполз ещё один. :)

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Date: 9 February 2014 17:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mironkin.livejournal.com
Еще прикольное варенье из фейхоа получиться может.

Date: 9 February 2014 17:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammo1.livejournal.com
Это другое - иностранное слово. Причём совершенно неправильное для русского языка по форме.

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